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>> tomorrow, oklahoma republican senator tom coburn lays out his plan to cut the deficit by $9 trillion over the next decade. he was one of the gang of six working on a bipartisan deal, but he left the negotiations in may to work on his own deal. we will have that news conference live monday it to 30 p.m. there were new developments today in the british film hacking investigation. rebecca brooks was arrested and questioned and paul stevenson resigned in connection with the case. last wednesday, the ongoing investigation was the topic of discussion. this is about 30 minutes. >> thank you.
this is an addition to my duties . >> it currently deleting voice mails from a missing teenager. it would incriminate your business. there are confidential medical details. we happen to have this. i asked if these can be actions of the proper person? >> this makes an extremely point. we have to be clear about what is happening. this is engulfing parts of the media and police and the political system's ability. what we must do is think about the victims who are watching this today and make sure that we get to the bulk of what has happened.
>> yesterday, i met a family who showed incredible bravery and strength in speaking out about what happened to them. the prime minister, does bigger thing. >> i have made clear that should like to resign. that resignation should have been given. it is becoming clearer. branch change. i think it's becoming increasingly clear that while
everybody to start with wanted in some way to separate what was happening at news international and what is happened with be sky be is simply impossible. what's happening is disgraceful and has to be discussed and they need to stop thinking about mergers when they need to sort out the mess. >> mr. speaker, i thank the prime minister for that answer. he's right to take the position that rebekah brooks should go. when the cloud hangs over, and with the defeat that we have seen, does he agree with me, he clearly does, that it would be wrong to expand their stake in the british media? and does he further agree that if the house of commons speaks with one voice today, and i hope he will so come to the debate, that rupert rupert murdoch should drop his bid and listen to the house of
commons? >> i agree with what the right on gentleman says. i agree the house is speaking with one voice. the government has a job to do to act within all times of the law, and my righthand of the secretary has to obey every aspect of the lws. business has got to stop the business of mergers and get on with the business of cleaning it's stables. >> this is the thing, i look forward to debating the issues with the leader of the house who will be speaking for the governor later in the debate. mr. speaker, i know he's making
a statement shortly about the inquiry. can we confirm something that we agreed last night. we need to make sure we get to the bottom, not just of what happened to our newspapers, but also about the relationships between politicians and the press. does he agree with me -- does he agree with me that if we editors and members of the press to give evidence under oath, so should current and past politicians? >> i agree with that. first of all, on the issue of debate, we are debating now. that's right. we're going to have a statement in the house of commons. mr. speaker, i will stand here and answer questions from as many members of parliament that want to ask them. [booing] >> i think we should focus on the substance. as the leading opposition said, we have an excellent meeting last night. we discussed the nature of the inquiry that needs to take place. we discussed the terms of reference. i sent the terms of reference to the office. we are happy to accept those. they will be terms of reference.
i want to hour what the dowler family and those and others have to say to take the whole country with us as we deal with this problem. i also think if we are going to say to the police, you must be more transparent and cut out corrupt, if we are going to say to the media you must be more transparent and cut out the malpractice, yes, the relationship between the media and politicians must change. we must be more transparent, about meetings, executives, editors, and i'll be setting out proposals for that in a minute or two. >> i want to thank you the prime minister for the answer. they are answers the whole country would have wanted to hear. could i also ask him to clear up one specific issue. it's now been confirmed his chief of staff and director of strategy were given specific information before the general election by the "guardian newspaper." the information showed while he was editing the news of the world, andy hired jonathan reed,
a man jailed for seven years for a criminal conspiracy and who made payments to police on behalf of the "the news of the world." can the prime minister tell us what happened to that significant information that was given to his chief of staff? [cheering] >> i'd like to answer this, if i may in full. first of all, all of the questions relate to the fact that i hired a tabloid editor. on the bases of assurances that he gave me he did not know about the phone hacking, he was not involved in criminality. he gave the same assurances to the police, committee of the oath, and under law. if it turns out he lied, it won't be he shouldn't have been in the government, he will be prosecuted. i do believe we must stick to the principal that you are innocent until proven guilty. [cheering]
>> let me deal with the information in remember last year. first of all, it was not passed on to me. let me be clear, it was not some secret stash of information. all of it was publish in "the guardian" in february 2010, it was same time my office was approached. it contained no allegations directly leaking andy to a behavior, it didn't shed further light on the issue of phone hacking. it wasn't drawn to my attention. once more, i met the editor of the guardian, and he didn't raise it with me, and i met him a month later and he didn't raise it. if the information is so significant, why have i not been asked about this in the press or in the house? [booing] >> the reason why, mr. speaker,
it didn't add anything to the assurances that i was given. let me say once more, if -- if i was lied to, if the police were lied to, if the select committee was tied -- lied to, it will be a matter of deep regret and a matter of criminal prosecution. [cheering] >> order. anybody might think that the orchestrated noise is taking place. [laughter] >> order. order. the house will come to o years, for criminal conspiracy,
who made payments to the police on behalf of the news of the world. this evidence cause serious caught on his assurances on the phone hacking which he resigned was an isolated example of illegal activity. the prime minister says the chief of staff did not pass on this very serious information. can he now tell us what information he proposes to take against the chief of staff? >> i have given -- i think -- the fullest possible answer i could to the right. gentleman, let me say this. he can stand there and ask questions about andy, i can stand here and ask questions about tom baldwin. [cheering] >> he can ask questions about my private office, i can ask questions about damon mcbride. you know what, mr. speaker, -- you know what, mr. speaker, i
think the public and the victims of the scandal want us to rise above it and deal with the problems that the country faces. >> ed milliband. >> mr. speaker, he just doesn't get it. [cheering] >> he just doesn't get it. i say this to the prime minister, he was worned by the deputy prime minister of our hiring andy, and he was warned by lord ashtown about hiring andy, he has now admitted in the house of commons that his chief of staff was given complete evidence, which contradicted andy's previous account. the prime minister must now public the fullest account of all of the information that was provided and what he did and why those warnings went unheeded.
he should do, most of all, he should apologize for the era of judgment he had in hiring andy. >> i'm afraid, mr. speaker, the leader who is not getting it the leader. what the public wants us to do is sort out bad practices of the media, fix the corruption in the police, they want a proper public inquiry, and they are entitled to ask when the problems went on so long for so many years, what was it that happen in the last decades? what was it? when was the police investigation that didn't work? what was the public inhire reover the last ten years. we've now got a full on police investigation that will see proper prosecution and i hope proper convictions to get to the bottom of the issue. that is the leadership i'm determined to provide. [cheering]
>> mr. davider -- order. order. order. [cheering] order. order. order. order. [cheering] >> order. order. i say to the children's minister, try to calm down and behave like an adult. if you can't, if it's beyond you, leave the chamber, get out, we'll manage without you. mr. david ward. >> thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, what a case -- >> order. this is intolerable behavior as far as -- no, it's not funny. only in your mind, mr. laufton is it funny. mr. ward. >> thank you. without calling the kettle black, if i could have a moment.
is the prime minister aware that there are people being quoted without convictions or claims 53,000 pounds to ensure their first car? these ridiculous premiums are being driven by insurance, selling brash details to personal injuries. what are we going to do? >> prime minister. >> thank you, mr. speaker. my friend is making a good point about the problem of referral fee that is are driving up the cost of insurance for many people. the gentleman for blackburn has made powerful points about this. there was a report to the government calling for the fees to be banned. i'm sympathetic to this. i know my friend, the justice secretary is too, we hope to make some progress. >> will the prime minister, if asked, give evidence to the judge-led public inquiry that he
is setting up today? >> of course. the point about the inquiry, which i'll be announcing in a moment or two, it will be judge led, it will take it's powers from the inquiry acts, it'll be able to call people under oath, and there is vital. there are three pillars. this is the issue of police corruption, the issue of what happened at the media, and also questions for politicians, past, present, and future. >> matthew hancock. >> thank you, mr. speaker. my constituents are increasingly concerned about the deepening problems in the eurozone. will the prime minister reassure me he is doing everything he can to keep us out of it and to urge the eurozone to act? >> my friend is right. we have to stay out of the eurozone. being a member of the euro would take away the flexibility we currently have. but we have to remember 40% of our experts go to eurozone
countries. we should be making constructive suggestions about proper stress tests for the banks backed up by recapitalization, involving the private sector to make greece's debt burden more sustainable, and earning credibility through concrete actions to reduce the deficits. basically, eurozone countries have to recognize they have to do more together and faster. they have to get ahead of the market, rather than responding to the next crisis. >> mary. >> thank you, mr. speaker. lord ashtown said he warned last year of the terrible damage he would suffer if andy matter of
deep regret. i couldn't be more clear. we must judge people as innocent until proven guilty. >> thank you. andrew. >> i received another e-mail from a constituent, expect this time he told me of a elderly lady who at home had a fall and unable to call because the cables had been stolen. this is a growing problem across the country. legislation relating to this dates back to 1964. please can we have an urgent review to make sure the dealers that accept the stolen scrap metal are prosecuted? >> i have every sympathy with my honorable friend. i have a case in my own
constituency that the church roof was stolen. these crimes need to be taken seriously. they put massive costs on to churches, charities, and businesses. we have to make sure they are not seen as second order crime. it is a level of crime that's growing and worrying. >> tom watson. [cheering] >> the detail this afternoon will be vital. it shows the house will be united on the family. can i ask the prime minister to make urgent inquiries as if the victims of 9/11 were similarly targeted, and will he rate with the counterpart in the united states? >> i will certainly look at it. in the statement i'm about to state, i'll tell you how many phones they think were hacked, and pledge they will contact every single one.
i met with police commissioner paul stevenson last night to speak further reassurances about the scale of the operation under way. this is a mixed appearance by police officers at the select committee last night. i thought that stu acres, who is leading the investigation aquested herself extremely well. i have confidence that the metropolitan police will get to the bottom. >> to raise coffee. >> thank you. they have committed to a low carbon world and recycling rate of over 60%. he's always welcome to visit, but will he give his backing to enhance skills training to fill the new job opportunities to be created locally? >> no, i think the honorable lady makes a good point. i congratulate her on branding as the green coast. i think there is a big opportunity. particularly in light of what my right and honorable friend, the energy and crime change secretary said in the terms of
green jobs, energy, and nuclear. and the vital things to encourage the investment that we want is to demonstrate that we are going to build up our skills base. that's what the partnerships play such a valuable role. >> thank you, mr. speaker. can the prime minister tell the house whether he had any conversations about phone hacking with abdomeny coulson at the time of his resignation? will he place in tjus
>> once the recognized his secretary, as far as the shares are concerned, they might keep it. his life is literally hanging on a thread. he is willing to be kept. >> i understand this. it is not so much about the alleged offense which is very seriously. h everyone knows is a very serious offense. you can understand why the americans feel so strongly about it. the case really now is in front of my friend, the home secretary, who has to consider reported about gary mckenyon's
health and well being. it's right that she does that in a proper and sorry to use this word, quasi way. >> they have to make cuts in spending, police service, and withdrawal of legal aid. can you justify the following expenditures? at the beginning of last month, a serviceman from northern ireland asked for a nonurgent pair of boots. 45 pounds. they were dispatched by private courier at the cost of 714 pounds, isn't it time he got a grip of this? >> well, i know that former health ministered wanted to hear the rattle of every bedpan. maybe i need to see the order of every pair of boots in the military. i recognize the point.
we need to recognize there's a huge amount of cost in terms of back office and logistics. we want to make it more efficient to spend money on the front line. the example he gives is a good one. i shall check it out and see if we can save some money. >> thank you, mr. speaker. >> can the prime minister assure the house that all illegal press activity under the last government will be investigated now and that it will include the criminal conspiracy between the highest levels in the last government with the murdoch empire including bribing a back account of lord ashcroft laid out? >> the point about -- the point about the inquiry which you are surely going to discuss, it will look at the relationship between politicians and media groups over the whole issue of that relationship and as it relates to media policy. i think this is extremely important.
this inquiry will have the ability to call politicians, serving politicians, previous prime ministers to get to the bottom of what happened and how unhealthy the relationship was. that is what needs to happen. >> margaret. >> thank you, mr. speaker. on monday, the mod permanent secretary told the public accounts committee that the prime minister himself locked the national audit office from accessing relevant national security council documents. the order is considered essential to assess whether the decisions on the aircraft carrier in the defense review represent value for money. that refusal is unprecedented. in the interest of full transparency and accountability to parliament, will the prime minister now agree to immediately release the information? [cheering] >> the short answer is we were following precedent. the long answer is if she wants
me to come to her committee and explain what an appalling set of decisions the last government maid on aircraft carriers -- [cheering] >> -- the delay alone by the government she worked for added $1.6 billion to the cost of the aircraft carriers. if she wants me to turn up and not just tell you what we discussed in the cabinet, but lay out the full detail of the waste her government was responsible for, name the day. >> malcolm bruce. >> thank you, mr. speaker. following the prime minister question for me three and a half years ago, the predecessor for the member set up pilot schemes to provide sign language support for deaf parents and the children. these have now been completed and a huge success. will he meet the del -- delegations to discuss how it can be extended to all parents
across the united kingdom? >> we do a lot to support languages, signing is incredibly important. these schemes have been important. i looked at what he asked, and i'll arrange the meeting to see how he can take it forward. >> mr. robinson, my question to the prime minister concerns the rail program and the contractors escape concerns. he will be aware throughout the house and with 20,000 manufacturing jobs at risk, as rightfully should be. can the prime minister confirm that no contract has been signed and that indeed no contract can be signed until the funding package itself is determined as a complicated process. given this is the heart of the question that i put to the prime minister. given that the funding -- funding package -- given that the -- 20,000 jobs are at stake,
mr. speaker, given that -- [booing] >> given that the 20,000 jobs are at risk, will the prime minister say he's not been holding the competition for the funding package -- >> what i would say to the right on gentleman. i know he cares deeply about this issue. it's a great company, it has a great future in our country. we want to see it succeed. i have to say in this case, the procurement process was designed and initiated by the previous government. we were bound by the criteria they set. therefore, we have to continue with the decision that's been made according to that criteria. we are now looking at all of the eu rules and procurement rules to see if we can change and make better for the future issues like this. >> will the prime minister join me in calling for the lek --
electrify indication of the railway line and link us to the much needed high speed too? >> i'm well aware of the campaign. i remember spending a lot of time at the station during the last parliament, normally accompanied by people dressed in top hats and tails. i seem to remember. seems my colleague will remember that. it's not in the current problem. we'll look sympathetically. we want to see more railway lines in the country. >> thank you, mr. speaker. his government said that university tuition fees would average 7500, in actual they average 8500. how can he justify over the parliament? >> first of all, there are only nine universities charging 9,000. there are 57 that won't charge
9,000 for any. 108 out of 124 will charge less than 6,000 for all of their courses. the point i'd make is this, university degrees have not suddenly started costs 7, 8, object -- or 9,000 pounds. the question is do you ask the graduates to pay or the taxpayers to pay? the money doesn't grow on trees. we've made our choice. i think the party opposition that introduced tuition fees has to come up with the answer. >> mr. speaker, amidst the turmoil caused by the euro, should this country continue to take step of reducing it's debt of and stay clear of paying for eu bailout whatever the advice you get opposite? >> the point i make, it's not only the restrictions of the euro, also the building up of unsustainable levels of debt. although we are o